From: vince@offshore.ai (Vincent Cate) Newsgroups: sci.space.tech Subject: Re: Heat Sink Heat Shields References: <5dcb47db.0310011151.51d744ce@posting.google.com> <9186edb5.0310012120.758e3a2a@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.88.68.230 Message-ID: <9186edb5.0310091009.118d0d4c@posting.google.com> I got a new book and learned some more. First I have added 2 lines for ablatives to the most interesting parts of the table earlier in this thread: Material Conductivity Density Specific Melting HeatSink Heat Point W/m-C kg/m3 J/kg-C C Joules/Kg Beryllium 175 1,859 1885 1278 2,409,030 Aluminum 220 2,707 896 660 591,360 Copper 386 8,954 380 1085 412,300 If steam used in transpiration x4 13,005,600 Phenolic-nylon Charing Ablative 15,000+ BTU/lb (p. 127) 34,890,000 Apollo Total heat/heat shield weight (p. 133) 13,886,220 The book says that for Apollo to have used Beryllium, the heatsink would have to have been about half the total mass (page 120). With the ablative they show the heat-shield weight as 1300 lbs out of a total of 9500 lbs or 13.7%. It has 5,970 BTU/lb as the total heat / heat shield weight which I converted to 13,886,220 Joules/Kg. No doubt there is some margin there. It is dated 1968 (i.e. before landing on the moon) so there is some chance some Apollo numbers changed after ths book came out. The book is "Re-entry and Planetary Entry Physics and Technology - II / Advanced Concepts, Experiments, Guidance-Control and Technology" By W. H. T. Loh There is also a volume I, but II has been more interesting so far. My attempts to simulate the Apollo reentry are not working well so far. The book describes the Apollo computer's guidance logic during reentry but my simulator does not have that. I may try to put the logic in just so I can get some validation of my simulator. If I scale the heat I get at 7.7 km/sec to 11.3 km/sec I get close to their numbers. The kinetic energy goes up with the square of velocity, this would be about 2.15 times the heat (we are assuming the same fraction of the heat goes into the capsule, which is only an approximation). If you take 2.15 times the heat I get for a 7.7 km/sec reentry you are about at the heat the book says for Apollo reentry. So my similator may be close to reality on reentry heat!!!!! -- Vince ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Vincent Cate Space Tether Enthusiast vince@offshore.ai http://spacetethers.com/ Anguilla, East Caribbean http://offshore.ai/vince ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You have to take life as it happens, but you should try to make it happen the way you want to take it. - German Proverb